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October 20th, 2009


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04:15 pm - "We shall fight on the beaches"... and in the House, too, apparently
I'm trying to decide whether it takes anything away from Winston Churchill's "We shall fight on the beaches" House of Commons speech of 4 Jun 1940 to know that it was immediately followed not by respectful solemnity but by petty common-or-garden niggling over parliamentary procedure.

On the whole, I think I'm opting for "no", but it's still funny to see the tepidity of the general response.
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From:kazmat
Date:October 20th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
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... Just the blog-like style of that site makes me cringe and expect the first "comment" to be "FIRST POST!"
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From:greybar
Date:October 20th, 2009 11:09 pm (UTC)
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Thank you for linking this. I had never seen the whole thing before (and by that I mean the speech, not the dickering).

... but did the Hon Thorne just call Bellenger out to put on uniform and go to war? :)
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From:trystero
Date:October 21st, 2009 01:01 am (UTC)
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I think so, yes. That's machismo, British style.  :-)

The site is the one I use to read Prime Minister's Questions sessions: I had no idea until today that they had records of historical speeches like this one. And like you, I had never read the full speech: mostly I've just seen the last paragraph or two quoted.
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From:z_gryphon
Date:October 20th, 2009 11:15 pm (UTC)
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My favorite bit has to be:

"Mr Hastings Lees-Smith (Keighley)

May I explain that in accordance with the custom of the House—[Hon. Members: "No."]"

Also, I love the little pop-down menu that appears if you mouse over the Members' pictures. I'm sure it's perfectly functional with regards to today's Parliamentary proceedings, but the absurdist in me is just tickled by having a pop-down that says, "Email me when Mr Winston Churchill speaks."
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From:trystero
Date:October 21st, 2009 01:01 am (UTC)
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I promise to e-mail you when Mr Winston Churchill speaks.  :-)
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From:sauergeek
Date:October 21st, 2009 04:52 am (UTC)
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Zombie prime minister!
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From:z_gryphon
Date:October 21st, 2009 05:10 am (UTC)
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Mr Winston Churchill (Epping)

Braaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiins.

Mr James Maxton (Glasgow Bridgeton)

On a point of order. I am somewhat at a loss to understand what is now taking place.

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